In the midst of the Black Hat mayhem last week, Dennis Fisher took some time to sit down for a group podcast with some fellow journalists and other guests, including Patrick Gray of the Risky Business podcast, Jessy Irwin, Mike Mimoso of Threatpost, Fahmida Rashid of InfoWorld, Chris Brook of Threatpost, and Brian Donohue of Booz Allen Hamilton’s Cyber4Sight team. This episode covers a wide range of topics, including the most interesting sessions at the conference, 0-day sales, security research on security products, and how the media covers it all.